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Two genres, side by side. The ratings are editorial judgements on a ten-point scale, not measurements. Where they come out level, the difference is in the prose underneath them.

First genre

Hardcore punk1980

Second genre

Black metal1982

Head to headHardcore punk vs Black metal
Hardcore punk: heaviness 6, melody 4, speed 9. Black metal: heaviness 9, melody 4, speed 9.Heaviness6 / 9Melody4 / 4Speed9 / 9
Each corner is a ten-point rating. The further out, the higher.

The difference, in figures

Black metal is clearly heavier (+3) than Hardcore punk, and matches it on speed and melody. It emerged in 1982, 2 years after Hardcore punk in 1980. They sit on opposite branches of the tree and share no common ancestor.

Assembled from the stored ratings, dates and tree positions, not written.
Heaviness
Hardcore punk6
Black metal9
+3
Speed
Hardcore punk9
Black metal9
level
Melody
Hardcore punk4
Black metal4
level

Hardcore punk

1980 · California / Washington DC · 13 subgenres

Where it sits

RockPunk rockHardcore punk

In short

Punk accelerated to 200 bpm, songs of one minute and shouted vocals. Without it there is no thrash, no grindcore, no metalcore.

How it sounds

  • Tempos of 180 to 250 bpm with galloping or skank drum patterns.
  • Songs under a minute, with whole albums running twenty minutes.
  • Shouted rather than sung vocals, and direct political or personal lyrics.

Key acts

  • Black Flag
  • Minor Threat
  • Bad Brains
  • Discharge

Start here

The pickBad Brains - Bad Brains (the ROIR cassette). The fastest band of the decade.

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Black metal

1982 · Norway / Sweden · 10 subgenres

Where it sits

Heavy metalBlack metal

In short

Tremolo picking, blast beats, shrieked vocals and deliberately cold production. More an aesthetic than a technique - atmosphere matters more than clean sound.

How it sounds

  • Tremolo picking on open fifth voicings, with vocals in the high register.
  • Deliberately thin, cold production - the missing bass is an aesthetic choice, not an accident.
  • Fast blast beats, drums often mixed back, atmosphere placed above technique.

Key acts

  • Bathory
  • Mayhem
  • Darkthrone
  • Emperor

Start here

The pickDarkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern Sky. The production is intentional, not a flaw.

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