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Post-hardcore 1985

Hardcore that allows itself dynamics, empty space and irregular structures. Emo, screamo and mathcore all branch off from here.

Heaviness
5
Speed
6
Melody
7
Where from
Washington DC / Chicago
Tempo
120-170 bpm
Song length
3-6 min
Written about
Complicity, Institutions, Self-examination, Language itself
Vocals
Sung and screamed

Why this one

You saidPost-hardcoreMatchWeight
Both, trading off When someone is singing, what should come out? mixed 100% ×3
There, but not the point How much weight do you want behind it? 5 out of 10 100% ×2
Weighted mean 100%

Ranked over all 150 genres in the encyclopedia, on the 2 answers you gave, weighted vocals 3, heaviness 2 out of 5. Post-hardcore ties with the next, and won on being the broader of the two. Where two genres score the same the broader one wins, because a genre with subgenres under it is somewhere to carry on from and a leaf is a full stop.

Five records, in this order

  1. 1Start one step outside
    Cover of Bad Brains

    Bad Brains, Bad Brains 1982

    Hardcore punk

    Bad Brains - Bad Brains (the ROIR cassette). The fastest band of the decade.

  2. 2The one to put on first
    Cover of The Shape of Punk to Come

    Refused, The Shape of Punk to Come 1998

    Post-hardcore

    Refused - The Shape of Punk to Come. The title was an arrogant joke that came true.

  3. 3Then
    Cover of Repeater
  4. 4Then
    Cover of Relationship of Command
  5. 5Then
    Cover of Yank Crime

The first is the entry point for Hardcore punk, one step outside, so the second record has something to be heard against. After it come Post-hardcore's essential records in the order the encyclopedia lists them. Every one of these has a page here with links out to somewhere it can be played.

If that is not it

Not simply the second and third of the ranking: those are almost always near neighbours of the first, which is three names for one suggestion. An alternate has to sit at least 4 steps through the tree from the headline and from the other alternate, which is the same floor the "sounds like this, but isn't" panel uses.

What your answers ruled out

Counted as genres scoring 20% or less on that answer alone. A recommendation that only shows what it chose is hiding half of what it did.