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Hardcore punk 1980
Punk accelerated to 200 bpm, songs of one minute and shouted vocals. Without it there is no thrash, no grindcore, no metalcore.
- Heaviness
- 6
- Speed
- 9
- Melody
- 4
- Where from
- California / Washington DC
- Tempo
- 190-250 bpm
- Song length
- 45 sec-2 min
- Written about
- Youth, The police, Straight edge, Betrayal by your own scene
- Vocals
- Shouted
Why this one
| You said | Hardcore punk | Match | Weight |
|---|---|---|---|
| Shouting, but I can still hear the words When someone is singing, what should come out? | shouted | 100% | ×3 |
| There, but not the point How much weight do you want behind it? | 6 out of 10 | 90% | ×2 |
| As fast as anyone can play What pace? | 9 out of 10 | 90% | ×2 |
| The beginnings Does it matter when it was made? | 1980 | 56% | ×1 |
| No. Texture and force are enough. Do you want a tune you could hum afterwards? | 4 out of 10 | 70% | ×1 |
| Weighted mean | 87% | ||
Ranked over all 150 genres in the encyclopedia, on the 5 answers you gave, weighted vocals 3, heaviness 2, pace 2, era 1, melody 1 out of 9. Hardcore punk leads the next by 3 points. Where two genres score the same the broader one wins, because a genre with subgenres under it is somewhere to carry on from and a leaf is a full stop.
Five records, in this order
- 1Start one step outside
Ramones, Ramones 1976
Ramones - Ramones. Fourteen songs in twenty-nine minutes, not a wasted note.
- 2The one to put on first
Bad Brains, Bad Brains 1982
Bad Brains - Bad Brains (the ROIR cassette). The fastest band of the decade.
- 3Then
- 4Then
- 5Then
The first is the entry point for Punk rock, one step outside, so the second record has something to be heard against. After it come Hardcore punk's essential records in the order the encyclopedia lists them. Every one of these has a page here with links out to somewhere it can be played.
If that is not it
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Thrash metal 79%
NWOBHM plus hardcore punk: palm-muted riffs, brutal tempos and lyrics about war and society. The first truly extreme branch.
On the other branch of the tree entirely, and 5 steps from Hardcore punk.
The way into Thrash metal -
Noise rock 78%
Alternate tunings, feedback as an instrument and rhythm sections that hit like machinery. The grandfather of sludge.
4 steps from Hardcore punk, meeting it only at Rock.
The way into Noise rock
Not simply the second and third of the ranking: those are almost always near neighbours of the first, which is three names for one suggestion. An alternate has to sit at least 4 steps through the tree from the headline and from the other alternate, which is the same floor the "sounds like this, but isn't" panel uses.
What your answers ruled out
- As fast as anyone can play put 4 genres at the bottom of that one question, among them Doom metal, Drone metal, Funeral doom. Worth 2 of 9.
- The beginnings put 67 genres at the bottom of that one question, among them Folk metal, Metalcore, Nu metal. Worth 1 of 9.
- No. Texture and force are enough. put 40 genres at the bottom of that one question, among them Folk metal, Folk rock, Emo. Worth 1 of 9.
Counted as genres scoring 20% or less on that answer alone. A recommendation that only shows what it chose is hiding half of what it did.